1. Eve-survival

2. What ship are you using? What level mission we are talking about?

Fit a couple Rapid Light Missile Launchers?

Jeesus, dude, maybe you just shouldn't do L4s if you cannot finish so simple mission. It's not GM's or nobody else's fault you simply suck at flying and using your ship.

it must be your ship, as i did that mission tonight and did not even use a drone. There are different options :D

I know most mission runners love to fly only one ship, and pimp it with the most expensive officer mods, so this may sound ludacris... but have you considered using more then one ship, like trying a battlecruiser?

Picking the right tool for the job, is sometimes better then always using the hammer...

it must be your ship, as i did that mission tonight and did not even use a drone. There are different options :D

How are your drone support skills? And did you try minmatar drones? Wingmans are Angel ships and those are vulnerable to explosive damage iirc. Try to refit your ship for that mission with nothing but T2 warriors. Or T1 if you are uncertain and don't want to lose too much isk.
Did you try targetpainters? How is your guided missilie precision skill? What rigs did you fit? Do you have any implants that help your missiles explosion radius and explsoion velocity?

There are so many different things to consider. And if you seriously think that when flying a CNR it's all about the drones, yeah maybe you should indeed just forget about missions.

I think the drone changes were (partly) meant to make people adapt and not just stick to the same modules at all times

Silence the informant lv4 has become a PITA for a boat that relies on drones to deal with NPC frigates. All frigs in that mission web and there are lots of them so once one of your drones get aggroed, it gets webbed to death and there is virtually no chance for it to make it to the drone bay. Actually I did manage to clear the 2nd room with a CNR a few days ago sacrificing one drone each time I deploy them. It cost me 8 Hob IIs to finish the room. No fun :(

I'm getting used to the new npc mechanic now and I think I can do better next time (with the help of web and TP, frigs go down to cruise missiles pretty nicely) but ... I'll probably just decline it. It's not worth the effort XD

Gaming God eh ?

Ok, first off, PRE-patch, using medium slow drones for Frigate-killing was a very, very bad idea ...

Post-patch, the NPC frigates will aggro your drones, always, ever. That's WORKING AS INTENDED.

Solution, on a CNR ?

3 Rigor Rigs and Precision cruise missiles to smash the frigs ... one volley for the non-elite, up to three for the elites ... or ignore the frigs and concentrate on the heavy hitters ... after all, those 5-10 damage per frig should'nt kill your CNR ...

Now, what you CAN use your drones for, AFTER you've cleaned those pesky gnats that are Frigates, is to sic your Medium drones on the Cruisers while you deal with the Battlecruisers/Battleships with your Fury cruises ...

If your skills (ingame and IRL) aren't up to that, feel free to contract me your CNR and leave the game ...

keep using CNRs for missions. and spend billions keeping it alive.

I've been thinking I should start looting CNR wrecks that die in lvl 4's.

there's something CCP tries to do, which is ship balancing. it would be unfair
if the CNR was tanky AND could chuck cruises from so far away.

if you're looking for the tanky CNR, just get a Golem.



//I'm fitting a probe launcher and I'm going to loot mission wrecks.

first battleship I warp to, what do I find?
CNR killing frigs with cruises.
I'm going to follow them. DON'T DIE